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The Leaver case for a second referendum

The Leaver case for a second referendum

A guest slot by Dots Once upon a time a grand and determined queen wanted to build a bold new home on the hilltop. Everyday her men would work hard to build the palace only to find on following day their work undone in piles of rubble. The queen was advised to seek help of a local boy born to a virgin mother. The boy advised why the palace could not be built, in a pool beneath the hill two…

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The deal splits the Tories whilst a referendum would split LAB as well

The deal splits the Tories whilst a referendum would split LAB as well

One of the arguments that pro-second referendum Tory MPs are using at the moment is that the Brexit deal basically splits the Tories and Labour gets off scot free in spite of its equivocation and huge policy differences. So it is being said that if there was a referendum then it would split Labour as well. For Corbyn’s equivocation on Brexit and the referendum has really cost the party almost nothing so far and indeed the polling finds that those…

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More and more punters are putting their money on a second referendum happening

More and more punters are putting their money on a second referendum happening

Betdata.io I really do like showing betting charts simply to indicate how opinions about a likely outcome change all the time and it’s good to see it in graphic form. Giving the response so far from parliamentarians to the brexit deal the chances are that this might get voted down by MPs and if so then what? The consequences of no deal have not yet been spelled out to voters but there’s little doubt that ministers are aware. There’s increasing…

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How referendums can add to the democratic process

How referendums can add to the democratic process

Principles for calling referendums This thread header is a response to Mr Meeks’ thread of 6 November, in which he wrote, “we can at least set out some principles for calling referendums.”  It does not ask whether referendums are desirable (though I believe they are). Instead, I look at how the UK political system should accommodate more direct democracy in the future. International experience An excellent study by UCL in 2017 noted 550 nationwide referendums in 43 stable democracies between…

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What price democracy? 

What price democracy? 

In late 2018, as Britain wanders down the path marked Brexit, the route ahead still looks murky, thorny and pot-holed. The country is still divided almost equally between those who think Britain was right to vote Leave in 2016 and those who think it was a mistake. An increasing number of hardcore Remainers are calling for a second referendum, while many hardcore Leavers argue that would make the first referendum meaningless, undermining democracy.  So the question arises: is democracy a means or an end?  Let’s take an extreme example. Until sanctions bit in…

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The danger for Leavers is if tonight’s developments provide a peg to de-legitimise the Referendum outcome

The danger for Leavers is if tonight’s developments provide a peg to de-legitimise the Referendum outcome

“The idea… that the campaign was legitimate is false.” A Brexit insider accuses Vote Leave of cheating – in response the PM’s political secretary denies the claims and “outs” the accuser as gay. #TheBrexitWhistleblower pic.twitter.com/srWVPtz7E8 https://t.co/Hzjfe0hxkk — Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) March 24, 2018 The OBSERVER: "Brexit insider claims Vote Leave team 'may have broken law' #tomorrowspaperstoday ??? pic.twitter.com/Xw9S2dl2Yc — Michael Savage (@michaelsavage) March 24, 2018 Ever since June 23rd 2016 the main reason for going forward with Brexit is that,…

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